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StanTheMan

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Re: Star Citizen - Breaking News
« Reply #225 on: January 04, 2018, 10:28:28 AM »
Pretty much. They're now implying that RSI/CIG were well aware that they were breaching the agreement, but did it anyway. Showing intent is key to damages.

Why would "intent" not have been included in the original filing from such a capable firm ?

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Re: Star Citizen - Breaking News
« Reply #226 on: January 04, 2018, 10:37:19 AM »
I would think it is implied in the fact that they are pressing forward with the lawsuit.

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« Reply #227 on: January 04, 2018, 10:40:57 AM »
The whole Crytek vs CIG thing feels like history, for Chris Roberts, is repeating itself.

Star Citizen is his finest work to date, where he has combined every aspect of of his earlier works, from Wing Commander and Freelancer to his time spent in Hollywood. So you not only get to see Mark Hamill flying space ships, in an over-scoped game which Chris can't make, but you get to see Chris run out of money and get sued as well.

At least he might make some money from the movie of the SC disaster, Sandi might actually get some screen time in this one.

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Re: Star Citizen - Breaking News
« Reply #228 on: January 04, 2018, 11:04:36 AM »
Why would "intent" not have been included in the original filing from such a capable firm ?

Read my latest thread from this morning and you will understand. It's related to Ortwin

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/948952076004089857.html
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« Reply #229 on: January 04, 2018, 11:05:05 AM »
Nah, Derek will pen the book on it as he has all the research on it. I don't know if a movie would get made, possibly a 60 minutes like episode on the failures of crowdfunding and a cautionary tale of greed and incompetence coming together along with lax laws to create the greatest crowdfunding failure ever.

Then they will talk about the bill pending in the Senate to tighten regulations for crowdfunding as Chris Roberts and Ortwin await sentencing for some overlooked Rico act violation (or something to that effect). I just believe that there must have been some sort of criminal violations hiding under all of that bullshit legalese. Perhaps they were skimming backers money as they did with their failed film corporation and the loan was a repeat of the same find replacement and scam. They say the best tricks are the old tricks. they pulled it off once why not try it again?  Skim the cash just before they bottom out and then repayment hits killing off CIG and/or removing S42 from their ownership and the need to continue development.

It's just a guess. Where there is smoke there is fire. I cannot believe that they are on the up and up.

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Re: Star Citizen - Breaking News
« Reply #230 on: January 04, 2018, 01:33:08 PM »
I have a feeling things for CiG are going to go as well as it did for Loki to Skadden's Hulk towards the end of The Avengers.

ooo... meme brainwave...

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« Reply #231 on: January 04, 2018, 02:30:08 PM »
They say the best tricks are the old tricks. they pulled it off once why not try it again?  Skim the cash just before they bottom out and then repayment hits killing off CIG and/or removing S42 from their ownership and the need to continue development.

Has Chris been having any holidays in countries without US extradition treaties and banks which don't ask too many questions? Just a thought.

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Re: Star Citizen - Breaking News
« Reply #232 on: January 04, 2018, 06:01:40 PM »
Read my latest thread from this morning and you will understand. It's related to Ortwin

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/948952076004089857.html

I still dont understand what Skadden have found out since filing that they didnt already know (about Ortwin)

I appreciate they may have just done some more work on what info they had and decided to amend it.

Also, why wouldn't Chris Roberts be very well up on the specific details of the GLA and thus aware he was breaking it ?   

It isnt some obscure clause we are talking about here, or is it ?

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Re: Star Citizen - Breaking News
« Reply #233 on: January 04, 2018, 11:30:43 PM »
Sometimes I get the feeling the crowd here likes wildly optimistic speculation about the future as much as the opposition.

But Sandi carefully curates her imdb page, and you can see that there is a SC documentary in the works. My personal wildly optimistic fantasy involves getting the rights and the footage at the firesale.

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« Reply #234 on: January 05, 2018, 02:47:57 AM »
Also, why wouldn't Chris Roberts be very well up on the specific details of the GLA and thus aware he was breaking it ?   

It isnt some obscure clause we are talking about here, or is it ?

Better than that, they have Ortwin who has negotiated both sides of the same GLA a various times (hence the reason for mentioning that information in the court documents at all). Therefore CIG can't say they were unaware they were breaking it.

Most likely, they switched to Lumberyard so they didn't have to pay a license fee thinking Crytek was going bust therefore they'd get away with it - like the greedy incompetents they are.

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Re: Star Citizen - Breaking News
« Reply #235 on: January 05, 2018, 05:05:05 AM »
I still dont understand what Skadden have found out since filing that they didnt already know (about Ortwin)

It's all in my that thread, all clearly laid out. Plus, law suits are fluid; there is always new information available.

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I appreciate they may have just done some more work on what info they had and decided to amend it.

Well, yeah.

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Also, why wouldn't Chris Roberts be very well up on the specific details of the GLA and thus aware he was breaking it ?

We don't know they broke it. All we have are allegations that they did. Once we have the facts, the rest will be clear.

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It isnt some obscure clause we are talking about here, or is it ?

The Crytek lawsuit was very specific and I've done my best to lay it all out in layman terms. I can't do much more than that.
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Re: Star Citizen - Breaking News
« Reply #236 on: January 05, 2018, 02:56:14 PM »
So RSI/CIG sent out a letter to their concierge big spenders asking for $350. For no apparent reason. Like, at all.

Read it. Then stay tuned for the regularly schedule lol-along choir.

DISCLAIMER: It's real. That's NOT a Goon Photoshop. We're not that brazen. Yet.



So, the company backers gave $175M to build a game they have yet to deliver, is now charging the big spenders for a meet and greet.

Here we thought them taking backer money to manufacture cheap Chinese goods, then selling them back to backers at a mark up profite was bad.

LOL!!

$175M raised from backers, over a 6 year period.

And they can't spend $21K to invite 60 lucky backers to the studio they PAID for.

This is absolutely mind-boggling to me.
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Star Citizen isn't a game. It's a TV show about a bunch of characters making a game. It's basically "This is Spinal Tap" - except people think the band is real.

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Re: Star Citizen - Breaking News
« Reply #237 on: January 05, 2018, 03:12:04 PM »
Are we due JPEG sales any time soon? I've got a feeling CIG need the cash right now.

They're going to have to do something spectacular, selling tanks seems a bit dull. Maybe some sort of giant walking battlemech thing which can be loaded into a specialised space ship ? It's not as though CR has any original thoughts anyway.

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« Reply #238 on: January 05, 2018, 03:15:53 PM »
So sad as it makes one wonder if they will turn SC into a nickle and dime you machine beyond the tanks, merchandising etc. Chris should be going out of his way  serve the community that gave him so much money. Asking for money just to meet him with the current state of the game is in poor taste.


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Re: Star Citizen - Breaking News
« Reply #239 on: January 05, 2018, 03:22:04 PM »
So sad as it makes one wonder if they will turn SC into a nickle and dime you machine beyond the tanks, merchandising etc. Chris should be going out of his way  serve the community that gave him so much money. Asking for money just to meet him with the current state of the game is in poor taste.

Yeah, but at this stage I'm surprised that they're not charging more.

Like I said, clearly Battle mechs are the way forward.

 

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