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Re: The Star Citizenship
« Reply #270 on: September 02, 2017, 10:04:37 AM »
Another good thing about denying the refunds is that it wil create a shitload of work for Customer Service. Now I do not wish that to them personally of course, but as a company, they have to take on the extra work and might start wondering why they have to deny and deny and deny and maybe they start asking questions internally or try to vent their frustrations outwards. It's not only another sign that something is wrong, it might be another opening of the lid of the cesspool.

The honest believers who now have seen the light, I would like them to get a refund. The white knights and the cultists however, I wouldn't lose any sleep over them not getting their money back.

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Re: The Star Citizenship
« Reply #271 on: September 03, 2017, 05:02:46 AM »
LOL!!! This is getting kinda hilarious. I guess we're all getting in on that sweet, sweet, infringement (Shitizens are fucking morons) action  :laugh:



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Re: The Star Citizenship
« Reply #272 on: September 03, 2017, 05:07:48 AM »
Another good thing about denying the refunds is that it wil create a shitload of work for Customer Service. Now I do not wish that to them personally of course, but as a company, they have to take on the extra work and might start wondering why they have to deny and deny and deny and maybe they start asking questions internally or try to vent their frustrations outwards. It's not only another sign that something is wrong, it might be another opening of the lid of the cesspool.

The honest believers who now have seen the light, I would like them to get a refund. The white knights and the cultists however, I wouldn't lose any sleep over them not getting their money back.

I don't feel sorry for them at all. It's their job. That's what CS is for. As to the refunds, as long as backers have the right to a refund, they have no choice but to give it. Sure they can stop giving refunds, and challenge Shitizens in court, but that will be the dumbest thing ever - and they know it. But soon, they won't have a choice but to stop giving refunds, which is what I've recently been hearing.
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Re: The Star Citizenship
« Reply #273 on: September 03, 2017, 05:15:51 AM »
Well, I do feel sorry for them, as for most staff at CIG. They are just people trying to earn a living. Not all of them are part of the scam that Chris is running. Probably some of them even don't know what is going on. So in that regard, I do not want to see CIG collapse. The human aspect remains that some 300 people will lose their jobs. But you didn't back Scam Shitizen to pay for other people's income. You want the game. And that's why this scam should stop.

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Re: The Star Citizenship
« Reply #274 on: September 03, 2017, 10:59:21 AM »
We all know the answer to this one, I think.

Does it make financial sense for CIG to ever release this game?
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« Reply #275 on: September 03, 2017, 11:40:45 AM »
I didn't get a downvote in that thread  :stare:

It's doesn't matter. CIG has burned through all the money already and is running on fumes. This whole farce will crash and burn, probably within a few months. The sooner people will stop buying more fancy JPEGs, the sooner CIG will collapse. And no, by buying them you will not make sure the game will finish. That is not going to happen. It's beyond salvation.

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« Reply #276 on: September 03, 2017, 12:02:55 PM »
I didn't get a downvote in that thread  :stare:

It's doesn't matter. CIG has burned through all the money already and is running on fumes. This whole farce will crash and burn, probably within a few months. The sooner people will stop buying more fancy JPEGs, the sooner CIG will collapse. And no, by buying them you will not make sure the game will finish. That is not going to happen. It's beyond salvation.

I think they're either ignoring you now, or the even the most fanatic are on the ropes.
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« Reply #277 on: September 03, 2017, 12:13:12 PM »
Ignoring me? Ignoring ME? IGNORING ME? WHAT?

No, I don't think they can  :D

But even if they do, my comments are there for others to read. Just keep poking it up and up. Wanna share how long you think I have to keep doing that?  :D

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Re: The Star Citizenship
« Reply #278 on: September 03, 2017, 01:53:41 PM »
Quote from: Mirificus" post="476032895


These. Fucking. Morons.

Let's see, shall we?

First of all, since my very first game, I have used the industry standard build/patch numbering scheme. Most recent:

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LoD:
http://lodgame.com/changelog

LoD Tactics
http://lodgame.com/tactics-changelog/

UCCE 3.0
http://3000ad.com/ucce30-changelog/

UCCE 2.0
http://3000ad.com/ucce20-changelog/

AAW
http://downloads.3000ad.com/aaw_changelog.txt

AOA
http://downloads.3000ad.com/aoa_changelog.txt

GCES
http://3000ad.com/downloads/gc/stm/gcesSE_changelog.txt

CIG. A comedy of failures.

And they're not even out of Alpha yet, but they're using numbering scheme for a live released title. Because clearly we know nothing about game development.

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Yeah because this is perfectly normal:

2.6 (Star Marine) https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15646-Star-Citizen-Alpha-26-With-Star-Marine-Available

2.0 (PU) https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15106-Star-Citizen-Alpha-20-Available

1.2 (ArcCorp) <https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14927-Welcome-To-ArcCorp-Star-Citizen-12-Released

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Then on April 10, 2015, they switched.

1.1 https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14651-Note-From-The-Chairman-Version-Numbering

New Plan!

Alpha 1.1.1 – Today’s Update (Primarily Arena Commander improvements)
Alpha 1.1.2 – Code Stability bug fix patch for Pre-Star Marine
Alpha 1.2.0 – Star Marine
Alpha 1.3.0 – Social Module

1.0 (Arena Commander) https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link//14399-Star-Citizen-Patch-V100

0.8 (Hangar) https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13909-Arena-Commander-Launched

0.x (Hangar) https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13233-Hangar-Module-Released
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Re: The Star Citizenship
« Reply #279 on: September 04, 2017, 07:54:09 AM »
Surprisingly, they are still actually debating the fact that GC2017 was a nonsensical and disastrous rehash of what was shown at GC2016.

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« Reply #280 on: September 04, 2017, 09:02:57 AM »
Meanwhile, over there. Happiness, Star Citizen, and you  #notacult
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« Reply #281 on: September 04, 2017, 09:04:01 AM »
From that same topic: Who knows maybe connection issue was sabotaged by haters

Oh man,  :wtf:  :vince:

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« Reply #282 on: September 07, 2017, 07:38:23 AM »
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So, someone posted this rumor on Reddit:

So guys, I don't think this post will be very popular but I've head some gossip from a source that was on the floor in Cologne. Here is what he heard, apparently the team from GiG was looking to secure funding, in the form of a 75 million dollars investment, from other game companies during the conference for use of their technology. No news on why they would want to do that but that's the rumor. Apparently, the other piece of it is that there's not been any progress on SQ 42 at all since last year, they focused entirely on making the technology work for SC 3.0 so they would have chance of selling it ? Not sure. I'm not saying they are running out of money, I have no idea if it's true. But the source is someone I trust (friend of mine since school in Switzerland) working for a large Eastern European games company. Anyway that's the rumor, wanted to share it with you guys.

It's worse than that.

And it's not the tech they were trying to sell. They were seeking investment funding for the project itself. I already wrote about this, but most people discarded it as rumor.

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/905473821049802752

So, someone posted this rumor on Reddit:

So guys, I don't think this post will be very popular but I've head some gossip from a source that was on the floor in Cologne. Here is what he heard, apparently the team from GiG was looking to secure funding, in the form of a 75 million dollars investment, from other game companies during the conference for use of their technology. No news on why they would want to do that but that's the rumor. Apparently, the other piece of it is that there's not been any progress on SQ 42 at all since last year, they focused entirely on making the technology work for SC 3.0 so they would have chance of selling it ? Not sure. I'm not saying they are running out of money, I have no idea if it's true. But the source is someone I trust (friend of mine since school in Switzerland) working for a large Eastern European games company. Anyway that's the rumor, wanted to share it with you guys.

It's worse than that.

And it's not the tech they were trying to sell. They were seeking investment funding for the project itself. I already wrote about this, but most people discarded it as rumor.

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/905473821049802752

Well, he made a video.

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« Reply #283 on: September 07, 2017, 07:38:40 AM »
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Well considering nothing he said can be proven, I am not sure why that video is even a topic of discussion anyways?  Anybody can make a video and start making all kinds of claims, just because it happens to match what you like to hear does not mean it is true.

That's what this sub-forum is for. It's for discussing such things. Hence "Star Citizen Media Articles".

And yeah, rumors are what they are; however, like all the lies Croberts and CIG have been telling, and which ended up in print, those could very well be the same as rumors because they're either true or false.

And obviously this backer is talking about rumors which I have written about for MONTHS now. But since those guys tend to just ignore everything...until it turns out to be true, they just ignored it as usual. I recall it was only recently we were arguing about the Coutts loan. Here we are.

In a 01/12/17 article which I wrote, I said:

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They’re rumored to be quite low on funds (it’s expensive to fund [img=https://imgur.com/5fqTqpt.jpg]http://4 studios and almost 400 people[/img] around the globe), so we already expected this to start happening eventually. With this much money at stake, all things considered, CIG is basically robbing Peter (new backers) to pay Paul (refunds). Which is how a Ponzi scheme collapses once the amount of money needed to give to Paul, exceeds what was taken from Peter – and spent.

If after all these months of being warned you didn’t get a refund, well, you only have yourself to blame.

In a 01/14/17 article, I wrote an article in which Croberts basically admitted that he was now running a Ponzi scheme:

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"First of all, we always have a decent amount of money in reserve, so if all support would collapse, we would not suddenly be incapacitated. We plan the scope of the development based on what arrives monthly by the people to support. I’m not worried, because even if no money came in, we would have sufficient funds to complete Squadron 42. The revenue from this could in-turn be used for the completion of Star Citizen."

Even though we know for a fact that the funding chart is inaccurate, it stands to reason that they have been living month-to-month off sales, subscriptions and these shows. With their estimated worldwide burn rate, no way in hell they can sustain it without shipping a final project.
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Re: The Star Citizenship
« Reply #284 on: September 07, 2017, 07:58:57 AM »
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Well considering nothing he said can be proven, I am not sure why that video is even a topic of discussion anyways?  Anybody can make a video and start making all kinds of claims, just because it happens to match what you like to hear does not mean it is true.

That's what this sub-forum is for. It's for discussing such things. Hence "Star Citizen Media Articles".

And yeah, rumors are what they are; however, like all the lies Croberts and CIG have been telling, and which ended up in print, those could very well be the same as rumors because they're either true or false.

And obviously this backer is talking about rumors which I have written about for MONTHS now. But since those guys tend to just ignore everything...until it turns out to be true, they just ignored it as usual. I recall it was only recently we were arguing about the Coutts loan. Here we are.

In a 01/12/17 article which I wrote, I said:

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They’re rumored to be quite low on funds (it’s expensive to fund 4 studios and almost 400 people around the globe), so we already expected this to start happening eventually. With this much money at stake, all things considered, CIG is basically robbing Peter (new backers) to pay Paul (refunds). Which is how a Ponzi scheme collapses once the amount of money needed to give to Paul, exceeds what was taken from Peter – and spent.



If after all these months of being warned you didn’t get a refund, well, you only have yourself to blame.

In a 01/14/17 article, I wrote an article in which Croberts basically admitted that he was now running a Ponzi scheme:

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"First of all, we always have a decent amount of money in reserve, so if all support would collapse, we would not suddenly be incapacitated. We plan the scope of the development based on what arrives monthly by the people to support. I’m not worried, because even if no money came in, we would have sufficient funds to complete Squadron 42. The revenue from this could in-turn be used for the completion of Star Citizen."

Even though we know for a fact that the funding chart is inaccurate, it stands to reason that they have been living month-to-month off sales, subscriptions and these shows. With their estimated worldwide burn rate, no way in hell they can sustain it without shipping a final project.

The pc invasion article doesn't exist anymore - do you have an archive version of it so I can read it please? Thanks.
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