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« Reply #795 on: August 09, 2017, 01:01:05 PM »
Man, you're stupid.

Oh, thank you. I'm having a laugh with that one you have no idea  :laugh:

I'm really questioning myself why I advised to keep on having Serendipity around. Not my finest moment in hindsight...
Why someone actually would think he is bitchslapping us around overhere, it's beyond me. Way, way beyond me.

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« Reply #796 on: August 09, 2017, 01:03:39 PM »
Ha ha, yeah, my Dutch is obviously nonexistent. Fair enough on using explosion. Love your country, both jazz festivals and stag weekends have entertained me thoroughly before now. The idea the universe is increasing its expansion isn't my theory. I think it is pretty well accepted by much better minds than mine. Feel free to use that in a quote to call me stupid again.

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« Reply #797 on: August 09, 2017, 01:04:34 PM »
Man, you're stupid.

Oh, thank you. I'm having a laugh with that one you have no idea  :laugh:

I'm really questioning myself why I advised to keep on having Serendipity around. Not my finest moment in hindsight...
Why someone actually would think he is bitchslapping us around overhere, it's beyond me. Way, way beyond me.

We're all having fun aren't we?

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« Reply #798 on: August 09, 2017, 01:10:59 PM »
At that moment in time, the ultimate "Derek Smart Was Right" mantra is going to be that, since July 2015 Chris they had overscoped the game in Nov 2014 @ $65M, I had said the game, as pitched, could never be built.

Missed this reply earlier, good read. The bit I've quoted is the important bit, the rest is just fluff and bluster, this bit here, this is exactly what I just said. At the moment in time it collapses, that is when I will say Derek Smart was right.

Edit: Happily say it at that. I'm not stupid enough to not accept when I'm proven wrong.

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« Reply #799 on: August 09, 2017, 01:28:36 PM »
At that moment in time, the ultimate "Derek Smart Was Right" mantra is going to be that, since July 2015 Chris they had overscoped the game in Nov 2014 @ $65M, I had said the game, as pitched, could never be built.

Missed this reply earlier, good read. The bit I've quoted is the important bit, the rest is just fluff and bluster, this bit here, this is exactly what I just said. At the moment in time it collapses, that is when I will say Derek Smart was right.

Edit: Happily say it at that. I'm not stupid enough to not accept when I'm proven wrong.

Right well nobody was asking you accept an unknown, because fact is that we won't know whether I was right or not about THAT specific issue, until either they release the game or they don't.

And FYI, if they DO (they won't) release a "game" that wasn't as originally pitched, I would still be right. So there's that.  :ssh:

Oh, you didn't miss though, right?

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You know, this is why I really need to write a specific article about all the things I've been right or wrong about, because this argument is getting so old. And that's only because you guys are in complete denial. I have been right about a LOT of very important things. Just off the top of my head:

- they don't have the tech to build the game // they switched to LY

- they would need $150M+ to build the game he pitched // we're at $156M, and no game. Plus that makes it $91M over budget already

- they have to give refunds, so just ignore the ToS nonsense // see the StreetRoller debacle that got the ball rolling

- having missed the 18 month delay period, they will change the ToS to restrict backer rights // I saw this one coming a mile away when noone else did.

- SQ42 is coming out in 2015, 2016, 2017

- they have to give a dev schedule to appease backers // like the refund issue, this one cost me attorney fees. Ortwin blew me off. they started doing dev scheduled a year later

- CitizenCon 2016 was a "con" and The Worm wasn't real // this one was hilarious because all the time we were on Discord during the show, and I was saying it, even some Goons didn't believe me. Then later CIG copped to it being R&D. And they did a Road To CitizenCon video amid backer outrage

- 3.0 was a pipedream, didn't exist, and most certainly wasn't coming out in Dec 2016 // I loved the part where Shitizens realized that the 3.0 they were pitched isn't the one that appeared in the April 2017 dev schedule

...and that's just off the top of my head.

Not to mention all the exec and nepotism related things ranging from Chris and the Veep of marketing actually being married, to Sandi lying about her creds, shooting private movies on company property, the myriad of shell corps associated with the project etc

But don't tell Shitizens this though because the first thing they will point out is ---> "you said they would collapse in 90 days, they're still here" and "you said Star Marine wasn't in 2.6" <--- and that hilarity never gets old because it's as absurd as this whole scam.

Ultimately there isn't is a shred of doubt in MY mind that the project is FUBAR and that's going to collapse sooner rather than later. The only question is when that will be, and what form it will take. At that moment in time, the ultimate "Derek Smart Was Right" mantra is going to be that, since July 2015 Chris they had overscoped the game in Nov 2014 @ $65M, I had said the game, as pitched, could never be built.
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Star Citizen isn't a game. It's a TV show about a bunch of characters making a game. It's basically "This is Spinal Tap" - except people think the band is real.

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« Reply #800 on: August 09, 2017, 01:28:40 PM »
At the moment in time it collapses, that is when I will say Derek Smart was right.
Edit: Happily say it at that. I'm not stupid enough to not accept when I'm proven wrong.

That's the spirit  :dance:

But, when (yes, when, not if) CIG collapses, why doesn't that prove Derek right on all the things that have led up to that event? CIG doesn't collapse overnight, it's a proces. There are a number of things happening and signs to be seen that clearly indicate that he is right. Why do you choose not to acknowlegde that?

Example: we have no idea how their financials are because they don't share them (which BTW, Chris said he would share them). The only information is a funding tracker on their website. Why would that tracker be accurate? Because they say so? Even when it's obvious that showing dwindling numbers would be devastating to the project.

It's strange that when we have several arguments why there are a number of signals that indicate there are things financially wrong, your only counterargument is "well, on their website they say they have collected over 155m" so everything is fine.

I can imagine someone wanting to see this project work, and I even can understand someone trying to look rather positively than negatively, but how can you justify/not see all the things happening?

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« Reply #801 on: August 09, 2017, 01:33:53 PM »
So, you're willing to admit that he was right when that actually happens. That also means that Derek was right about everything before that moment, at least for the big predictions. Basically, all the things that let up to that final event of CIG collapsing. But to those things you won't admit he was right. And you're wondering why I think you're stupid? Man, you're just proving my point here. Again.

See, I'm not so sure Derek ending up being right about the game being impossible to make, makes him automatically right about the, rather large, predictions of money laundering, racist hiring practices, office bullying and financial fraud. One does not begat any of the others.
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« Reply #802 on: August 09, 2017, 01:35:19 PM »
At the moment in time it collapses, that is when I will say Derek Smart was right.
Edit: Happily say it at that. I'm not stupid enough to not accept when I'm proven wrong.

That's the spirit  :dance:

But, when (yes, when, not if) CIG collapses, why doesn't that prove Derek right on all the things that have led up to that event? CIG doesn't collapse overnight, it's a proces. There are a number of things happening and signs to be seen that clearly indicate that he is right. Why do you choose not to acknowlegde that?

Example: we have no idea how their financials are because they don't share them (which BTW, Chris said he would share them). The only information is a funding tracker on their website. Why would that tracker be accurate? Because they say so? Even when it's obvious that showing dwindling numbers would be devastating to the project.

It's strange that when we have several arguments why there are a number of signals that indicate there are things financially wrong, your only counterargument is "well, on their website they say they have collected over 155m" so everything is fine.

I can imagine someone wanting to see this project work, and I even can understand someone trying to look rather positively than negatively, but how can you justify/not see all the things happening?

I see things differently to you. That's about all there is to it. Me and hundreds of thousands of other people, not all insane or stupid, think the same.

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« Reply #803 on: August 09, 2017, 01:37:54 PM »
I am not aware of postings about racist hirings or office bullying (that doesn't mean that he didn't make them, it's just I don't know about it). The other things, well, they come out after CIG collapses and the finances of it al will be scrutinezed. CIG won't collapse because of good financial management I'd say.

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« Reply #804 on: August 09, 2017, 01:44:10 PM »
How about claiming Sandi worked as an escort and starred in porn films whilst dreaming about deposing her in French, villifying staff members for various reasons and the naming of his 'moles'?

All true because CIG couldn't get subsumption working? Nah.


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« Reply #805 on: August 09, 2017, 01:44:41 PM »
See, I'm not so sure Derek ending up being right about the game being impossible to make, makes him automatically right about the, rather large, predictions of money laundering, racist hiring practices, office bullying and financial fraud. One does not begat any of the others.

Ah yeah, the goalpost shifting. Nobody said anything about me being right about ANY of those things. That's what rumors and hyperbole are for.

 - predictions of money laundering. // nope, not a prediction nor have anything to do with CIG engaging in it. in fact, I wrote an entire blog about it. you should read it

- racist hiring practices. // nope, didn't come from me. that was through The Escapist sources

- office bullying. // nope, didn't come from me. that was through The Escapist sources. In fact, the only time I wrote about anything close to that, was when James Pugh and a few others quit on the spot when Sandi accused them of being leakers

- financial fraud. // nope, I've never accused them of this

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How about claiming Sandi worked as an escort and starred in porn films whilst dreaming about deposing her in French, villifying staff members for various reasons and the naming of his 'moles'?

And this is related to "Derek Smart being right", how?

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- I don't recall ever accusing her of being an escort
- But she has starred in tickle porn. What's the  problem? She's an actress
- And I do want to depose her in French because she's a lying shit who, went on a stream and said she's fluent in French and German
- I vilify execs because they're lying scum bags engaged in an active SCAM. If they feel so bad about it, they could have sued me by now. Fact is, that's how society works. You don't see Musk, Besos or any of the execs complaining about the public calling them names, vilifying them etc.
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« Reply #806 on: August 09, 2017, 02:15:00 PM »
Seems I may have misremembered some of the stuff I've read over the years. I blame Reddit. Apologies.

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« Reply #807 on: August 09, 2017, 03:07:46 PM »
Seems I may have misremembered some of the stuff I've read over the years. I blame Reddit. Apologies.

No worries. It happens. Even to me.  :laugh:

But those guys on Reddit make shit up all the time. So there's that.   :argh:
Star Citizen isn't a game. It's a TV show about a bunch of characters making a game. It's basically "This is Spinal Tap" - except people think the band is real.

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« Reply #808 on: August 09, 2017, 03:44:12 PM »
Star Citizen isn't a game. It's a TV show about a bunch of characters making a game. It's basically "This is Spinal Tap" - except people think the band is real.

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« Reply #809 on: August 09, 2017, 06:10:37 PM »
Ha ha, yeah, my Dutch is obviously nonexistent. Fair enough on using explosion. Love your country, both jazz festivals and stag weekends have entertained me thoroughly before now. The idea the universe is increasing its expansion isn't my theory. I think it is pretty well accepted by much better minds than mine. Feel free to use that in a quote to call me stupid again.

You will accept the expertise of physicists but when it comes to Star Citizen you think you know better than a highly experienced Game Developer.

When Chris Roberts lies to you over 3.0 releasing in 2016 you declare it a "hope".
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