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Re: Star Citizen Lies, Ramblings, Jpegs, and Bullshit
« Reply #360 on: May 18, 2020, 06:02:13 AM »
An 8 min gameplay video from Theaters Of War leaked online. There are other videos in the link as played by the Evocati (those entitled nutters who don't really help with testing - at all)

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/glxpt2/8_minutes_of_theatres_of_war_gameplay_from/

Yes - 9 yrs + $350M later, they're nowhere near creating an MMO (currently at 50 client sessions), but they put resources into a Battlefield clone that looks and plays terribly.

They did this same thing with Arena Commander and Star Marine - both currently abandoned by both the backers and CIG.

But yeah, they're totally making an MMO game though.

Meanwhile, over at the hate sub...

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_refunds/comments/glc3ii/so_far_theaters_of_scam_looks_amazing_and_a/

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_refunds/comments/gm0qjz/another_theaters_of_scam_gameplay_video_60_fps/
« Last Edit: May 18, 2020, 07:08:03 AM by dsmart »
Star Citizen isn't a game. It's a TV show about a bunch of characters making a game. It's basically "This is Spinal Tap" - except people think the band is real.

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Re: Star Citizen Lies, Ramblings, Jpegs, and Bullshit
« Reply #361 on: May 18, 2020, 07:56:27 AM »

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/17599-Invictus-Launch-Week-Guide

See that F8 fighter in the trailer? The one they said you could never get outside of SQ42 and which only Concierge 10K+ backers got for free? I bet they're going to sell it now. Which means that, as a perk to Concierge, you don't need SQ42 achievement to get it.

https://starcitizen.fandom.com/wiki/F8_Lightning_Heavy_Fighter

Yup - desperate times.



« Last Edit: May 18, 2020, 08:02:29 AM by dsmart »
Star Citizen isn't a game. It's a TV show about a bunch of characters making a game. It's basically "This is Spinal Tap" - except people think the band is real.

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« Reply #362 on: May 18, 2020, 08:23:13 AM »
Meanwhile, over at the watercooler, some guy who plays the game every day…

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7 months ago, back in November 2019 Sean Tracy mentioned you could play at the time, that it was already in a good state and that he was pretty happy with it. He also described it as mainly needing a bit of more of art work so to get it out early 2020."
That was before they broke the rest of it and all the servers with SSOCS and long term non persistence of course
The 3.8 to 3.9 PU and PTU patches are the worst I’ve experienced in Star Citizen in quite a few years…it’s development going backwards. ToW is (at the moment) 20 v 20 with massive desync, 250ms+ built in server lag, random and consistent server crashes as well as game physics made of jelly … not to mention the thinking and marketing strategy behind offering up a 20 v 20 mini-game pew fest hoping to attract new backers into the main resource starved PU in the age of Fortnite, PUB-G, Battlefield and CoD, I’ve no idea…neither do they seemingly. It’s a drowning man clutching at straws.
Like I mentioned…the ETF chat isn’t quite as kind as that either.
Ci¬G are making it obvious that they cannot…for whatever reason…further progress the gameplay and content of the PU in any substantial and meaningful manner, excuses for Sqn 42 taking most of the resources from a 600+ strong multi-national team of devs doesn’t really ring with any measure of truth. They’re marking time and producing nothing but fluff and distraction whilst their main source of income, the PU, is dying.
Biting the hand that feeds you has never been a good idea.
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Re: Star Citizen Lies, Ramblings, Jpegs, and Bullshit
« Reply #363 on: May 18, 2020, 01:20:59 PM »
Meanwhile, over at the watercooler, some guy who plays the game every day…

Lollol. Going well then? 20 vs 20, from a supposed MMO developer. This will wipe the floor with PUBG!!!!11

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« Reply #364 on: May 18, 2020, 07:08:11 PM »
Lollol. Going well then? 20 vs 20, from a supposed MMO developer. This will wipe the floor with PUBG!!!!11
And Call of duty : Warzone. Don't forget, it's 150 players  and it's free . . . For now.

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« Reply #365 on: May 28, 2020, 06:34:13 AM »
*moved*

So we got a YouTube video of a QA Tester that claims he's played through "All of the missions" in SQ42 back in 2016 "because it's his job"...

https://youtu.be/i-CZrmCtqdk?t=1059

Sooo..wondering how this could get spun...
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Re: Star Citizen Lies, Ramblings, Jpegs, and Bullshit
« Reply #366 on: May 28, 2020, 06:34:53 AM »
It's all lies. As I stated back then.
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Re: Star Citizen Lies, Ramblings, Jpegs, and Bullshit
« Reply #367 on: May 31, 2020, 02:13:18 PM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/gtuo6l/my_calendar_must_be_broken_its_november_already/

It looks like being a record year for CIG funding.

So the questions are: is this real? Are the zealots all piling in and buying new ships they can't fly? or are CIG trying to give the appearance of success for whatever reason?

Given the total lack of progress in the last 6 months I'm finding it hard to believe that Zealots are still buying, but then again, it's more of a cult than a computer game these days.

The really, really interesting bit is that the fans on Reddit & Bored Gamer can't explain it either.
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Re: Star Citizen Lies, Ramblings, Jpegs, and Bullshit
« Reply #368 on: May 31, 2020, 08:19:10 PM »
So I found a reddit thread, that linked to an Imgur account (I think), that shows the back and forth of email traffic between someone by the name of Beer4theBeerGod. I don't know who that person is, but they seemed to capture their dialogue from back in 2015 with Customer Service and Sandi Gardner.

This next image from the Beer4theBeerGod I think sums up my feelings about this game/project. I'm also appalled that someone who takes money from "Backers" for a crowd sourced game to build something, sets the goals and timelines (and should be somewhat reliable since they have previous experience in that field doing this, right?) thinks they are somehow entitled to "Executive Level" compensation and no criticism from the community that funded this project when they continually break self imposed deadlines, deliverables and poor communication. I don't care how many hours a day you have to work to get this done. I don't want to hear it, because I don't care. You set the timetable and budget with features. You told the community how much it would cost to field X number of features and when it would be delivered. If you're missing the mark on all of these, that tells me you don't have a clue on what you're doing. And when you start altering your legal ToS to make it harder for folks to get their money back and then somehow blame them for even having the nerve to ask for it is crazy. I've seen this behaviour before. Usually with toxic, narcissistic folks that know you're on to their charade and they are still trying to manipulate you. That's not aimed anyone in particular at CIG.

https://i.imgur.com/gzfEPq7.png

This was originally from around December of 2015. It's still a relevant piece even today..which is sad.

Here's the link for the whole back and forth:

https://imgur.com/a/BIlWu



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Re: Star Citizen Lies, Ramblings, Jpegs, and Bullshit
« Reply #369 on: June 01, 2020, 07:25:40 AM »
So I found a reddit thread, that linked to an Imgur account (I think), that shows the back and forth of email traffic between someone by the name of Beer4theBeerGod. I don't know who that person is, but they seemed to capture their dialogue from back in 2015 with Customer Service and Sandi Gardner.

This next image from the Beer4theBeerGod I think sums up my feelings about this game/project. I'm also appalled that someone who takes money from "Backers" for a crowd sourced game to build something, sets the goals and timelines (and should be somewhat reliable since they have previous experience in that field doing this, right?) thinks they are somehow entitled to "Executive Level" compensation and no criticism from the community that funded this project when they continually break self imposed deadlines, deliverables and poor communication. I don't care how many hours a day you have to work to get this done. I don't want to hear it, because I don't care. You set the timetable and budget with features. You told the community how much it would cost to field X number of features and when it would be delivered. If you're missing the mark on all of these, that tells me you don't have a clue on what you're doing. And when you start altering your legal ToS to make it harder for folks to get their money back and then somehow blame them for even having the nerve to ask for it is crazy. I've seen this behaviour before. Usually with toxic, narcissistic folks that know you're on to their charade and they are still trying to manipulate you. That's not aimed anyone in particular at CIG.

https://i.imgur.com/gzfEPq7.png

This was originally from around December of 2015. It's still a relevant piece even today..which is sad.

Here's the link for the whole back and forth:

https://imgur.com/a/BIlWu

Beer4TheBeerGod was an original backer - and he's a Goon. He got into a fracas with CIG and co. Just like myself and others. In fact, I wrote a blog about that altercation.

http://dereksmart.com/2016/07/star-citizen-this-war-of-mine/

http://dereksmart.com/2016/08/woman-in-gaming-so-what/
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Re: Star Citizen Lies, Ramblings, Jpegs, and Bullshit
« Reply #370 on: June 01, 2020, 07:28:32 AM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/gtuo6l/my_calendar_must_be_broken_its_november_already/

It looks like being a record year for CIG funding.

So the questions are: is this real? Are the zealots all piling in and buying new ships they can't fly? or are CIG trying to give the appearance of success for whatever reason?

Given the total lack of progress in the last 6 months I'm finding it hard to believe that Zealots are still buying, but then again, it's more of a cult than a computer game these days.

The really, really interesting bit is that the fans on Reddit & Bored Gamer can't explain it either.

It's either :

1) real, and with no shenanigans

2) real and they're just smoothing it out over time using backer funds and investment

3) totally fake

I am going with #3 because even their financial statements don't add up
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Re: Star Citizen Lies, Ramblings, Jpegs, and Bullshit
« Reply #371 on: June 01, 2020, 07:46:35 AM »
How many shell companies are there now?

I've lost count.

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« Reply #372 on: June 01, 2020, 08:26:24 AM »
I stopped tracking them, but my list won't have changed by much

http://dereksmart.org/forums/reply/3698/
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« Reply #373 on: June 02, 2020, 02:52:12 PM »
So basically they lied about the whole thing. That's not even the half of it. The other part is that they were making a bullshot video of a game nobody has seen in years. Yup

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Last but not least, we’re aware that many of you eagerly await the Squadron 42 Update video we had mentioned previously. We’re eager too! So much so, that we jumped the gun and posted a publish date prematurely. We mentioned editorial issues, and to be very specific about what that meant, the video just wasn’t good enough, which oftentimes can be the case when working creatively. It’s very rare that we publish any video without it going through some level of iteration – our goal is to provide you all with meaningful content after-all. For this episode, it lacked the b-roll to properly illustrate what we were discussing, which led to it feeling like a lot of words without visual substance. We played with it, and added more visuals to better accompany our discussion. However, it became clear that we still weren’t quite there. So we’ve had to re-shoot some of it to better reflect what we want to show.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/citizens/17629-This-Week-In-Star-Citizen

Either they 1) stoked the whales right through the sale period or 2) figured it was crap and didn't want to risk whales getting mad.

So the day before the whaling ends, they announce this.
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« Reply #374 on: June 03, 2020, 07:15:22 PM »
So basically they lied about the whole thing. That's not even the half of it. The other part is that they were making a bullshot video of a game nobody has seen in years. Yup


I just got the extremely long winded email about sq42 etc from CI, filled with so much development BS its really hard to fathom.

 

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